<?xml version="1.0" encoding="UTF-8"?><rss xmlns:dc="http://purl.org/dc/elements/1.1/" xmlns:content="http://purl.org/rss/1.0/modules/content/" xmlns:atom="http://www.w3.org/2005/Atom" version="2.0" xmlns:itunes="http://www.itunes.com/dtds/podcast-1.0.dtd" xmlns:googleplay="http://www.google.com/schemas/play-podcasts/1.0"><channel><title><![CDATA[Dream of the Red Chamber: Translation]]></title><description><![CDATA[Translation of passages of Dream of the Red Chamber]]></description><link>https://www.redchamber.blog/s/translation</link><image><url>https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!_TxV!,w_256,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2Fb7b5cbeb-d6a5-4fd1-953a-3c0eb7490560_552x552.png</url><title>Dream of the Red Chamber: Translation</title><link>https://www.redchamber.blog/s/translation</link></image><generator>Substack</generator><lastBuildDate>Tue, 04 Aug 2026 22:17:19 GMT</lastBuildDate><atom:link href="https://www.redchamber.blog/feed" rel="self" type="application/rss+xml"/><copyright><![CDATA[Daniel Evensen]]></copyright><language><![CDATA[en]]></language><webMaster><![CDATA[redchamber@substack.com]]></webMaster><itunes:owner><itunes:email><![CDATA[redchamber@substack.com]]></itunes:email><itunes:name><![CDATA[Daniel Evensen]]></itunes:name></itunes:owner><itunes:author><![CDATA[Daniel Evensen]]></itunes:author><googleplay:owner><![CDATA[redchamber@substack.com]]></googleplay:owner><googleplay:email><![CDATA[redchamber@substack.com]]></googleplay:email><googleplay:author><![CDATA[Daniel Evensen]]></googleplay:author><itunes:block><![CDATA[Yes]]></itunes:block><item><title><![CDATA[Jia Yuanchun Enters The Garden]]></title><description><![CDATA[A pseudo natural world]]></description><link>https://www.redchamber.blog/p/jia-yuanchun-enters-the-garden</link><guid isPermaLink="false">https://www.redchamber.blog/p/jia-yuanchun-enters-the-garden</guid><dc:creator><![CDATA[Daniel Evensen]]></dc:creator><pubDate>Tue, 04 Aug 2026 11:46:11 GMT</pubDate><enclosure url="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!oEai!,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2Fee9fab94-10b2-4057-9055-800fbaf6f9f0_942x529.png" length="0" type="image/jpeg"/><content:encoded><![CDATA[<h1>Jia Yuanchun Enters The Garden</h1><p class="button-wrapper" data-attrs="{&quot;url&quot;:&quot;https://www.redchamber.blog/subscribe?&quot;,&quot;text&quot;:&quot;Subscribe now&quot;,&quot;action&quot;:null,&quot;class&quot;:null}" data-component-name="ButtonCreateButton"><a class="button primary" href="https://www.redchamber.blog/subscribe?"><span>Subscribe now</span></a></p><p>This is another short but significant passage. Jia Yuanchun gets her first glimpse of the garden, and her reaction is quite interesting.</p><h2><strong>My Translation</strong></h2>
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   ]]></content:encoded></item><item><title><![CDATA[Jia Yuanchun Arrives]]></title><description><![CDATA[A combination of poetry and accounting]]></description><link>https://www.redchamber.blog/p/jia-yuanchun-arrives</link><guid isPermaLink="false">https://www.redchamber.blog/p/jia-yuanchun-arrives</guid><dc:creator><![CDATA[Daniel Evensen]]></dc:creator><pubDate>Sun, 02 Aug 2026 10:38:23 GMT</pubDate><enclosure url="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!UmGN!,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F8ee5c06b-9923-481b-a7c7-0e313082e999_1283x1255.png" length="0" type="image/jpeg"/><content:encoded><![CDATA[<h1>Jia Yuanchun Arrives</h1><p>Jia Yuanchun finally arrives to the Jia household in today&#8217;s passage.  This is an interesting combination of beautiful poetry and an almost boring inventory of specific items.</p><p class="button-wrapper" data-attrs="{&quot;url&quot;:&quot;https://www.redchamber.blog/subscribe?&quot;,&quot;text&quot;:&quot;Subscribe now&quot;,&quot;action&quot;:null,&quot;class&quot;:null}" data-component-name="ButtonCreateButton"><a class="button primary" href="https://www.redchamber.blog/subscribe?"><span>Subscribe now</span></a></p><div><hr></div><h2><strong>My Translation</strong></h2>
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   ]]></content:encoded></item><item><title><![CDATA[Anticipation]]></title><description><![CDATA[The agonizing wait for Jia Yuanchun]]></description><link>https://www.redchamber.blog/p/anticipation</link><guid isPermaLink="false">https://www.redchamber.blog/p/anticipation</guid><dc:creator><![CDATA[Daniel Evensen]]></dc:creator><pubDate>Fri, 31 Jul 2026 11:51:41 GMT</pubDate><enclosure url="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!d2PW!,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F9dab59b4-39c0-49d0-aa9e-9039a0c8b157_605x1276.png" length="0" type="image/jpeg"/><content:encoded><![CDATA[<h1>Anticipation</h1><p class="button-wrapper" data-attrs="{&quot;url&quot;:&quot;https://www.redchamber.blog/subscribe?&quot;,&quot;text&quot;:&quot;Subscribe now&quot;,&quot;action&quot;:null,&quot;class&quot;:null}" data-component-name="ButtonCreateButton"><a class="button primary" href="https://www.redchamber.blog/subscribe?"><span>Subscribe now</span></a></p><p>The wait and anticipation for Jia Yuanchun&#8217;s return must have been excruciating for the Jia family. This passage gives you a little glimpse at what things must have felt like.</p><div><hr></div><h2><strong>My Translation</strong></h2>
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   ]]></content:encoded></item><item><title><![CDATA[Getting Ready For The Visit]]></title><description><![CDATA[Chapter 18 Begins]]></description><link>https://www.redchamber.blog/p/getting-ready-for-the-visit</link><guid isPermaLink="false">https://www.redchamber.blog/p/getting-ready-for-the-visit</guid><dc:creator><![CDATA[Daniel Evensen]]></dc:creator><pubDate>Wed, 29 Jul 2026 11:57:21 GMT</pubDate><enclosure url="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!bKa-!,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F3cf32b09-0224-4e0d-8488-99f5e5fd7116_1718x1284.png" length="0" type="image/jpeg"/><content:encoded><![CDATA[<h1>Getting Ready For The Visit</h1><p>Chapter 18 begins with the return home of Jia Yuanchun, the Imperial Consort. Today&#8217;s post is filled with descriptions of their extensive preparations for her return.</p><p class="button-wrapper" data-attrs="{&quot;url&quot;:&quot;https://www.redchamber.blog/subscribe?&quot;,&quot;text&quot;:&quot;Subscribe now&quot;,&quot;action&quot;:null,&quot;class&quot;:null}" data-component-name="ButtonCreateButton"><a class="button primary" href="https://www.redchamber.blog/subscribe?"><span>Subscribe now</span></a></p><h2><strong>My Translation</strong></h2>
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   ]]></content:encoded></item><item><title><![CDATA[Lin Daiyu's Temper]]></title><description><![CDATA[The end of chapter 17]]></description><link>https://www.redchamber.blog/p/lin-daiyus-temper</link><guid isPermaLink="false">https://www.redchamber.blog/p/lin-daiyus-temper</guid><dc:creator><![CDATA[Daniel Evensen]]></dc:creator><pubDate>Mon, 27 Jul 2026 10:02:55 GMT</pubDate><enclosure url="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!hm6S!,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F0df123eb-5051-4d4f-ad68-c86aafdd4402_614x1273.png" length="0" type="image/jpeg"/><content:encoded><![CDATA[<h1>Lin Daiyu&#8217;s Temper</h1><p class="button-wrapper" data-attrs="{&quot;url&quot;:&quot;https://www.redchamber.blog/subscribe?&quot;,&quot;text&quot;:&quot;Subscribe now&quot;,&quot;action&quot;:null,&quot;class&quot;:null}" data-component-name="ButtonCreateButton"><a class="button primary" href="https://www.redchamber.blog/subscribe?"><span>Subscribe now</span></a></p><p>We&#8217;ve finally come to the end of chapter 17, after what has felt like a long time. It&#8217;s been about a month and a half worth of posts.</p><p>The story really takes an interesting turn here. More on precisely what is going on in tomorrow&#8217;s post. While this post is longer than the posts we&#8217;ve seen so far in chapter 17, it&#8217;s also much more straightforward and easy to understand.</p><div><hr></div><h2><strong>My Translation</strong></h2><p>By the time they had left the garden, all Jia Baoyu could think about was going to see the girls who were inside. But, since Jia Zheng hadn&#8217;t told him to leave yet, he had no choice but to follow him to the study.</p><p>Jia Zheng suddenly realized that Baoyu was still there. &#8220;Why haven&#8217;t you left yet?&#8221; he asked Baoyu. &#8220;Don&#8217;t you know how much Grandmother Jia worries about you? Haven&#8217;t you had enough wandering around today?&#8221; It was only after hearing this that Baoyu dared leave.</p><p>As soon as he stepped outside the courtyard, the young servants who were together with Jia Zheng rushed up and threw their arms around him. &#8220;It&#8217;s so wonderful that the Master was in such a good mood today!&#8221; they told him. &#8220;Not long ago Grandmother Jia sent people out several times to ask about you. We told them that the Master was happy with you. Otherwise, if Grandmother Jia had called you to go back inside, you wouldn&#8217;t have had a chance to show off your talents. Everybody says that the poems you composed were the best of all. Since you&#8217;ve won the honors today, you ought to reward us!&#8221;</p><p>&#8220;A string of cash for each of you!&#8221; said Baoyu with a smile.</p><p>&#8220;Who cares for a string of cash?&#8221; said the boys. &#8220;Give us this pouch as a reward!&#8221;</p><p>As they spoke they crowded around him, untying his pouch and fan case one by one. Before he could utter a word, they had taken off every ornamental accessory that he wore.</p><p>&#8220;Now let&#8217;s escort him properly,&#8221; they said. And they walked him to Grandmother Jia&#8217;s door, surrounding him on all sides.</p><p>Grandmother Jia had been waiting for him. When she saw him arrive and once she knew that he had not been scolded, she was naturally delighted.</p><p>Xiren came in a moment later bringing tea. When she saw that there wasn&#8217;t a single accessory left on Baoyu, she laughed. &#8220;The things you were wearing must have been taken away by those idiots again,&#8221; she said.</p><p>Daiyu heard what Xiren said and went over to take a look. Sure enough, every single piece was gone. She turned to Baoyu and asked, &#8220;Did you give them the pouch I made for you as well? If you ever want me to make you anything ever again, you can forget about it!&#8221;</p><p>Daiyu then marched back into her room angrily. She picked up an unfinished fragrant bag that Baoyu had asked her to make a few days earlier, grabbed a pair of scissors, and began cutting it into pieces.</p><p>Baoyu saw that she was angry and had hurried quickly after her. By the time he got there, the sachet was already cut open and ruined. Baoyu had seen this sachet before: although it wasn&#8217;t finished yet, it had been very nicely crafted. He was upset when he saw that it had been destroyed for no reason.</p><p>And so he quickly unfastened his collar, untied the patch that was secretly attached to his inner lapel, and handed it to Daiyu. &#8220;Look, what is this?&#8221; he said. &#8220;When have I ever given your things to anyone else?&#8221;</p><p>Daiyu saw that Baoyu cherished her gift to him so much that he wore it hidden deep inside his clothing, for fear that someone might take it away. This made her feel extremely remorseful for being so quick to cut up the fragrant sachet. She lowered her head and didn&#8217;t say a word.</p><p>&#8220;There was no need for you to cut that up,&#8221; said Baoyu. &#8220;I know that you don&#8217;t want to give me anything anyway. Why don&#8217;t you take this pouch back as well?&#8221; And he tossed the pouch into her lap and turned to walk away.</p><p>This made Lin Daiyu cry even harder. She picked up that pouch and grabbed for the scissors.</p><p>Baoyu took it back right away. &#8220;Dear sister,&#8221; he said to her, &#8220;please forgive me this time!&#8221;</p><p>Daiyu threw down the scissors and wiped away her tears. &#8220;You don&#8217;t need to treat me like this, being nice to me one moment and mean to me the next! If you&#8217;re annoyed with me, let&#8217;s just break up!&#8221; And with that she climbed into bed angrily, lying down with her back turned to face the wall as she cried.</p><p>But she couldn&#8217;t stop Baoyu from coming up to her side, coaxing her by calling her a dear sister and begging her forgiveness.</p><p>Meanwhile, Grandmother Jia was calling everywhere for Baoyu. &#8220;He&#8217;s in Miss Lin&#8217;s room,&#8221; replied the servants.</p><p>&#8220;Good, good!&#8221; said Grandmother Jia in response. &#8220;Let him play together with his sisters and cousins for a bit. After all, his father kept him so nervous all day! Let him unwind now. Just don&#8217;t let them fight!&#8221; The servants agreed.</p><p>Daiyu simply couldn&#8217;t withstand Baoyu&#8217;s incessant pestering. Finally, she had no choice but to sit up. &#8220;You never let me have a moment&#8217;s peace,&#8221; she complained. &#8220;Fine! If that&#8217;s how you want it, I&#8217;ll just stay out of your way.&#8221; And she started to walk outside.</p><p>&#8220;I&#8217;ll follow you wherever you go!&#8221; laughed Baoyu. Meanwhile, he picked up the pouch and tied it back on.</p><p>Daiyu reached out for the pouch. &#8220;You said you didn&#8217;t want this,&#8221; she cried, &#8220;and yet you&#8217;ve tied it back on again. I feel embarrassed for you!&#8221; And she couldn&#8217;t help but start laughing when she said that.</p><p>&#8220;Dear sister,&#8221; said Baoyu, &#8220;would you please make me another sachet tomorrow?&#8221;</p><p>&#8220;That depends on my mood!&#8221; replied Daiyu.</p><p>They chatted and walked together, leaving the room and heading for Lady Wang&#8217;s main room. As luck would have it, Xue Baochai was also there.</p><p>At that moment, Lady Wang&#8217;s place was extremely busy. It turns out that Jia Qiang had just returned from Suzhou after purchasing twelve young girls for the opera troupe. He also had purchased instructors, costumes, and all the other things they needed.</p><p>By that time, Aunt Xue had moved to a quieter residence in the northeast section of the property. This way the Pear Blossom Court could be renovated into a place where the instructors could teach the girls. Additionally, several older, grey-haired household women who had learned to sing when they were young were assigned to supervise them. In the end, Jia Qiang was responsible for managing their daily expenses, cash flow, and the accounts for all this stuff.</p><p>Lin Zhixiao came in to make a report. &#8220;The twelve young Buddhist and Taoist nuns who were recruited have all arrived,&#8221; he said. &#8220;The twenty-four tailored robes that he had newly made are also ready.</p><p>&#8220;In addition, there is also a girl who still has her hair with them. She is originally from Suzhou and was born into a family of scholars and officials. Because she was sick from when she was a child, her family paid money for others to become nuns on her behalf, but none of it worked. It was only when she entered into the religious life herself that the sickness went away.</p><p>&#8220;That&#8217;s the reason she practices Buddhism while keeping her hair. She&#8217;s 18 years old this year, and her name is Miaoyu.</p><p>&#8220;Both her parents have passed away, and she only has two older maids and a young maid to look after her. She&#8217;s very well read, is familiar with the classics, and is remarkably beautiful. In fact, when she heard that there were relics of Guanyin and sacred palm-leaf scriptures in the capital city Chang An, she came here with her master last year. She&#8217;s currently staying at the Muni Convent just outside the West Gate.</p><p>&#8220;Her master was good at divine astrology, but passed away last winter. She left instructions that Miaoyu should not return home, but that she should stay here instead to see where her destiny takes her. And so she did not accompany her master&#8217;s coffin back to her hometown.&#8221;</p><p>&#8220;Why don&#8217;t we have her over then?&#8221; asked Lady Wang.</p><p>&#8220;If we simply ask her,&#8221; said Lin Zhixiao&#8217;s wife, &#8220;she&#8217;ll say &#8216;noble and aristocratic households are always using their power and status to browbeat other people; I&#8217;ll never come!&#8217;&#8221;</p><p>&#8220;Since she&#8217;s a lady from an official family, she&#8217;s naturally proud,&#8221; said Lady Wang. &#8220;What harm is there in sending a formal invitation to ask her to come here?&#8221;</p><p>Lin Zhixiao&#8217;s wife agreed in the end, and went out to ask the clerk to draft an invitation for Miaoyu. She arranged for carriages to bring her the next day.</p><p>If you want to know how things turn out, read the next chapter.</p><p class="button-wrapper" data-attrs="{&quot;url&quot;:&quot;https://www.redchamber.blog/p/lin-daiyus-temper/comments&quot;,&quot;text&quot;:&quot;Leave a comment&quot;,&quot;action&quot;:null,&quot;class&quot;:null}" data-component-name="ButtonCreateButton"><a class="button primary" href="https://www.redchamber.blog/p/lin-daiyus-temper/comments"><span>Leave a comment</span></a></p><div><hr></div><h2><strong>Translation Critique</strong></h2><p>Because this section is relatively straightforward, there isn&#8217;t quite as much room for different translations or interpretations.</p><p><strong>Hawkes</strong></p><p>Hawks describes that Jia Baoyu &#8220;was waylaid by a group of Jia Zheng&#8217;s pages.&#8221; To <em>waylay</em><span> means to ambush.</span></p><p>Hawkes gives &#22937;&#29577; (Miaoyu) the name <em>Adamantina</em>. This name is the feminine form of the Latin adjective <em>adamantinus</em>, which means incorruptible.</p><p><strong>Yang</strong></p><p>The Yangs have chapter 17 end as soon as Jia Zheng tells Baoyu to go back to see Grandmother Jia. This is indicative of some of the textual issues surrounding chapters 17 and 18. Chapter 18 begins with the servants stripping Baoyu of everything he was wearing.</p><p class="button-wrapper" data-attrs="{&quot;url&quot;:&quot;https://buymeacoffee.com/danielevensen&quot;,&quot;text&quot;:&quot;Buy Me A Coffee&quot;,&quot;action&quot;:null,&quot;class&quot;:null}" data-component-name="ButtonCreateButton"><a class="button primary" href="https://buymeacoffee.com/danielevensen"><span>Buy Me A Coffee</span></a></p><div><hr></div><h2><strong>Chinese Text</strong></h2><div class="captioned-image-container"><figure><a class="image-link image2 is-viewable-img" target="_blank" href="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!hm6S!,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F0df123eb-5051-4d4f-ad68-c86aafdd4402_614x1273.png" data-component-name="Image2ToDOM"><div class="image2-inset"><picture><source type="image/webp" 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She&#8217;s complaining that he&#8217;s treating her nice one moment and rudely the next.</p><p>&#24618;&#33226; means extremely embarrassing.</p><p>&#26792;&#39321;&#38498;, or the Pear Fragrance Court, sounds a lot like the phrase &#38626;&#37129;&#38498;, or </p><p>&#8220;the Court of Leaving One&#8217;s Hometown.&#8221; This is exactly what happened here: the twelve girls were uprooted from Suzhou and taken to the capital to act as theatrical servants. Notice, of course, that there are twelve of them, mirroring the Twelve Beauties of Jinling (&#37329;&#38517;&#21313;&#20108;&#37365;).</p><p>The concept of &#36023;&#20102;&#35377;&#22810;&#26367;&#36523; is a little bit foreign to most of us. Rather than having this child try to get rid of the evil spirit or karma causing the illness by entering a monastery or temple, they would pay to buy a child from a poor family and send that child in the place of their own.</p><p>&#22937;&#29577; (Miaoyu) is an interesting name. She is the only character in the novel to have the word &#29577; (yu, or jade) in her name who is not in the main family lineage. This means that she&#8217;s basically the equivalent of Jia Baoyu and Lin Daiyu, though she is independent of the world that they live in. The name &#22937;&#29577; means mysterious or wondrous jade.</p><p class="button-wrapper" data-attrs="{&quot;url&quot;:&quot;https://www.redchamber.blog/p/lin-daiyus-temper/comments&quot;,&quot;text&quot;:&quot;Leave a comment&quot;,&quot;action&quot;:null,&quot;class&quot;:null}" data-component-name="ButtonCreateButton"><a class="button primary" href="https://www.redchamber.blog/p/lin-daiyus-temper/comments"><span>Leave a comment</span></a></p><p></p>]]></content:encoded></item><item><title><![CDATA[The Maze House]]></title><description><![CDATA[The tour group gets lost]]></description><link>https://www.redchamber.blog/p/the-maze-house</link><guid isPermaLink="false">https://www.redchamber.blog/p/the-maze-house</guid><dc:creator><![CDATA[Daniel Evensen]]></dc:creator><pubDate>Sat, 25 Jul 2026 10:01:02 GMT</pubDate><enclosure url="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!A8s6!,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F331039a7-17a0-4f86-b3c9-b699ef72f8e5_684x1260.png" length="0" type="image/jpeg"/><content:encoded><![CDATA[<h1>The Maze House</h1><p class="button-wrapper" data-attrs="{&quot;url&quot;:&quot;https://www.redchamber.blog/subscribe?&quot;,&quot;text&quot;:&quot;Subscribe now&quot;,&quot;action&quot;:null,&quot;class&quot;:null}" data-component-name="ButtonCreateButton"><a class="button primary" href="https://www.redchamber.blog/subscribe?"><span>Subscribe now</span></a></p><p>This is an absolutely fascinating segment, particularly if you are interested in traditional Chinese art.  Cao Xueqin does a magnificent job of combining traditional artistic motifs with his text, creating a tapestry that is really quite remarkable.</p><div><hr></div><h2><strong>My Translation</strong></h2>
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   ]]></content:encoded></item><item><title><![CDATA[Red Fragrance and Green Jade]]></title><description><![CDATA[Jia Baoyu comes up with another brilliant name]]></description><link>https://www.redchamber.blog/p/red-fragrance-and-green-jade</link><guid isPermaLink="false">https://www.redchamber.blog/p/red-fragrance-and-green-jade</guid><dc:creator><![CDATA[Daniel Evensen]]></dc:creator><pubDate>Thu, 23 Jul 2026 10:00:43 GMT</pubDate><enclosure url="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!-Fgi!,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2Fa2f697b9-d5a1-4cea-8d6f-228ceb5b4860_677x1265.png" length="0" type="image/jpeg"/><content:encoded><![CDATA[<h1>Red Fragrance and Green Jade</h1><p class="button-wrapper" data-attrs="{&quot;url&quot;:&quot;https://www.redchamber.blog/subscribe?&quot;,&quot;text&quot;:&quot;Subscribe now&quot;,&quot;action&quot;:null,&quot;class&quot;:null}" data-component-name="ButtonCreateButton"><a class="button primary" href="https://www.redchamber.blog/subscribe?"><span>Subscribe now</span></a></p><p>Though we read just the other day that Jia Zheng was tired and that the end of our tour was coming soon, we&#8217;ve got yet another poetic creation by Jia Baoyu today.  This one is quite significant, and will come up again in this book.</p><h2><strong>My Translation</strong></h2>
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   ]]></content:encoded></item><item><title><![CDATA[Maiden Crabapple]]></title><description><![CDATA[More thick literary references]]></description><link>https://www.redchamber.blog/p/maiden-crabapple</link><guid isPermaLink="false">https://www.redchamber.blog/p/maiden-crabapple</guid><dc:creator><![CDATA[Daniel Evensen]]></dc:creator><pubDate>Tue, 21 Jul 2026 10:13:36 GMT</pubDate><enclosure url="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!xVGN!,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2Ff5ed97a4-83e7-4de6-9b67-394a30801241_604x1263.png" length="0" type="image/jpeg"/><content:encoded><![CDATA[<h1>Maiden Crabapple</h1><p class="button-wrapper" data-attrs="{&quot;url&quot;:&quot;https://www.redchamber.blog/subscribe?&quot;,&quot;text&quot;:&quot;Subscribe now&quot;,&quot;action&quot;:null,&quot;class&quot;:null}" data-component-name="ButtonCreateButton"><a class="button primary" href="https://www.redchamber.blog/subscribe?"><span>Subscribe now</span></a></p><p>We&#8217;re not quite out of the woods yet. Today our group takes a look at more scenery, most notably a beautiful, solitary crabapple tree. There&#8217;s a lot of literary allusion going on here that can be difficult to understand.</p><div><hr></div><h2><strong>My Translation</strong></h2><p>The group continued on their way. They passed by refined hallways, by thatched cottages, by walls of piled stones, and by gates made up of interlocking branches. In the hills below they caught a glimpse of a secluded Buddhist nunnery; deep in the woods a Taoist retreat for female Taoist nuns. Here there were long, winding covered walkways and twisting caves; there you could see square summer pavilions and rounded kiosks.</p><p>But Jia Zheng didn&#8217;t enter any of them. He hadn&#8217;t rested at all that day, and his legs were absolutely aching.</p><p>As they walked along, a courtyard residence came into view ahead. &#8220;Let&#8217;s go inside here and rest,&#8221; said Jia Zheng. And so he led the party into the residence.</p><p>They walked around the flowering peach trees and through a rustic moon gate fence made of woven bamboo and covered with flowering vines. That led them to a small enclosure surrounded by whitewashed walls, with green willows hanging down each side.</p><p>Jia Zheng led the party through the gate. There were corridors running on both sides connecting one area to the next, and the center of the courtyard contained a few artistic rock structures to complement the scene. On one side were several plantain trees, and on the other stood a single crabapple tree, with its branches spread out like an umbrella, with golden stamens hanging down like tassels, and with petals decorating the scene like cinnabar.</p><p>&#8220;What beautiful flowers!&#8221; exclaimed the men. &#8220;We&#8217;ve seen crabapples before, but we&#8217;ve never seen any as beautiful as these!&#8221;</p><p>&#8220;This is called a &#8216;Maiden Crabapple,&#8217;&#8221; replied Jia Zheng. &#8220;It&#8217;s a foreign variety. According to legend, it comes originally from the Kingdom of Women. That supposedly explains why it has such lush and abundant blossoms. Of course, that&#8217;s nothing but a preposterous rumor.&#8221;</p><p>&#8220;But this flower <em>is</em><span> different!&#8221; exclaimed the scholars. &#8220;Perhaps there is indeed some truth to the story of the Kingdom of Women.&#8221;</span></p><p>&#8220;I think,&#8221; said Jia Baoyu, &#8220;that the scholars and poets in old times called this &#8216;Maiden&#8217; because it is red like powdered rogue, and because its frail and delicate appearance looks like a beautiful and sickly woman leaning on her attendant for support. The whole thing has the feeling of a woman&#8217;s bedroom. As time went on, the name spread by word of mouth. There&#8217;s no need to take it literally.&#8221;</p><p>&#8220;We stand corrected,&#8221; said the gentlemen. &#8220;What a brilliant explanation!&#8221;</p><p class="button-wrapper" data-attrs="{&quot;url&quot;:&quot;https://www.redchamber.blog/p/maiden-crabapple/comments&quot;,&quot;text&quot;:&quot;Leave a comment&quot;,&quot;action&quot;:null,&quot;class&quot;:null}" data-component-name="ButtonCreateButton"><a class="button primary" href="https://www.redchamber.blog/p/maiden-crabapple/comments"><span>Leave a comment</span></a></p><div><hr></div><h2><strong>Translation Critique</strong></h2><p><strong>Hawkes</strong></p><p>As usual, David Hawkes treats the poetic description of the passages the group goes through as a poem itself:</p><div class="captioned-image-container"><figure><a class="image-link image2 is-viewable-img" target="_blank" href="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!k3bz!,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F80256cec-f98b-4e9c-8ee6-7cace1139040_932x506.png" data-component-name="Image2ToDOM"><div class="image2-inset"><picture><source type="image/webp" srcset="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!k3bz!,w_424,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F80256cec-f98b-4e9c-8ee6-7cace1139040_932x506.png 424w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!k3bz!,w_848,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F80256cec-f98b-4e9c-8ee6-7cace1139040_932x506.png 848w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!k3bz!,w_1272,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F80256cec-f98b-4e9c-8ee6-7cace1139040_932x506.png 1272w, 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&#32005;&#27155;&#22818;&quot;,&quot;title&quot;:null,&quot;type&quot;:&quot;image/png&quot;,&quot;href&quot;:null,&quot;belowTheFold&quot;:true,&quot;topImage&quot;:false,&quot;internalRedirect&quot;:&quot;https://www.redchamber.blog/i/207895060?img=https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F80256cec-f98b-4e9c-8ee6-7cace1139040_932x506.png&quot;,&quot;isProcessing&quot;:false,&quot;align&quot;:null,&quot;offset&quot;:false}" class="sizing-normal" alt="David Hawkes The Story of the Stone &#32005;&#27155;&#22818;" title="David Hawkes The Story of the Stone &#32005;&#27155;&#22818;" srcset="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!k3bz!,w_424,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F80256cec-f98b-4e9c-8ee6-7cace1139040_932x506.png 424w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!k3bz!,w_848,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F80256cec-f98b-4e9c-8ee6-7cace1139040_932x506.png 848w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!k3bz!,w_1272,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F80256cec-f98b-4e9c-8ee6-7cace1139040_932x506.png 1272w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!k3bz!,w_1456,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F80256cec-f98b-4e9c-8ee6-7cace1139040_932x506.png 1456w" sizes="100vw" loading="lazy"></picture><div class="image-link-expand"><div class="pencraft pc-display-flex pc-gap-8 pc-reset"><button tabindex="0" type="button" class="pencraft pc-reset pencraft icon-container restack-image"><svg aria-hidden="true" width="20" height="20" viewBox="0 0 20 20" fill="none" 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y2="10"></line><line x1="3" x2="10" y1="21" y2="14"></line></svg></button></div></div></div></a></figure></div><p>Hawkes removes Jia Baoyu&#8217;s reference to a beautiful and sickly woman entirely:</p><blockquote><p>&#8220;&#8216;Surely,&#8217; said Bao-yu, &#8216;it is much more probable that poets and painters gave it the name of &#8220;maiden crab&#8221; because of its rogue-like color and delicate, drooping shape, and that the name was misunderstood by ignorant, literal-minded people, who made up this silly story to account for it.&#8217;&#8221;</p></blockquote><p>Actually, if you read carefully and compare this section with the original text, you&#8217;ll see that it&#8217;s an entire mistranslation. Yes, Jia Baoyu does speculate that the &#8220;Maiden Crabapple&#8221; name spread from person to person, and that the reference to &#8220;the Kingdom of Women&#8221; should not be taken literally. But, no, Jia Baoyu doesn&#8217;t criticize people who believe in the literary version of the story as being &#8220;ignorant&#8221; or &#8220;literal-minded.&#8221;</p><p>But the most important omission here is the lack of any translation of &#24369;&#22914;&#25206;&#30149;. It&#8217;s incredible to me that this obvious reference to Lin Daiyu is entirely missing in the Hawkes translation.</p><p><strong>Yang</strong></p><p>The Yangs have the scholars ask &#8220;how did the name come to be handed down,&#8221; instead of arguing with Jia Zheng that there might be some truth to the story of &#8220;the Kingdom of Women.&#8221;</p><p>They also have Jia Baoyu refer to the tree as being &#8220;as frail as a delicate girl,&#8221; which, again, is a mistranslation. The Chinese original clearly refers to the girl being sick.</p><p class="button-wrapper" data-attrs="{&quot;url&quot;:&quot;https://buymeacoffee.com/danielevensen&quot;,&quot;text&quot;:&quot;Buy Me A Coffee&quot;,&quot;action&quot;:null,&quot;class&quot;:null}" data-component-name="ButtonCreateButton"><a class="button primary" href="https://buymeacoffee.com/danielevensen"><span>Buy Me A Coffee</span></a></p><div><hr></div><h2><strong>Chinese Text</strong></h2><div class="captioned-image-container"><figure><a class="image-link image2 is-viewable-img" target="_blank" href="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!xVGN!,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2Ff5ed97a4-83e7-4de6-9b67-394a30801241_604x1263.png" data-component-name="Image2ToDOM"><div class="image2-inset"><picture><source type="image/webp" 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class="button-wrapper" data-attrs="{&quot;url&quot;:&quot;https://www.paypal.com/donate/?hosted_button_id=QJ8TLTSQDH75C&quot;,&quot;text&quot;:&quot;PayPal Donation&quot;,&quot;action&quot;:null,&quot;class&quot;:null}" data-component-name="ButtonCreateButton"><a class="button primary" href="https://www.paypal.com/donate/?hosted_button_id=QJ8TLTSQDH75C"><span>PayPal Donation</span></a></p><div><hr></div><h2><strong>Translation Notes</strong></h2><p>&#20025;&#25151; actually means a room for refining elixirs. This refers here to a place for Taoist priests to live and cultivate their daily life together. Since we&#8217;re talking about female Taoist priests, this section refers to Taoist nuns. And note, of course, the mention of both Buddhist nunneries and Buddhist nuns.</p><p>&#30887;&#26691;&#33457; looks like it means &#8220;jade-green peach trees,&#8221; but that&#8217;s not entirely accurate. It seems that the &#30887; here refers to the trees flowering and being in bloom.</p><p>&#38498;&#20013;&#40670;&#35183;&#24190;&#22602;&#23665;&#30707; is pretty difficult to translate. &#40670;&#35183; means that the rock structures were placed in the center of the courtyard as a sort of visual foil to the other surrounding elements. It was common in extremely high end classical Chinese architecture to use structures of stones as a sort of natural contrast to the other elements of a residence or courtyard.</p><p>The best way to understand the Chinese crabapple tree is to look at a picture of one, assuming you haven&#8217;t seen one before:</p><div class="captioned-image-container"><figure><a class="image-link image2 is-viewable-img" target="_blank" href="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!Tg0t!,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F2ff3e65b-3024-46b3-9de1-a57e9ad43740_1080x698.webp" data-component-name="Image2ToDOM"><div class="image2-inset"><picture><source type="image/webp" srcset="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!Tg0t!,w_424,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F2ff3e65b-3024-46b3-9de1-a57e9ad43740_1080x698.webp 424w, 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If you&#8217;ve seen those trees in full bloom, you&#8217;ll understand what Cao Xueqin is talking about here. The trees do feel like an umbrella or a canopy covering everything underneath them. In this section it&#8217;s almost like the trees form a sort of delicately sculpted and crafted work of art. This also seems to reflect the personalities of the delicate girls who are symbolically alluded to in chapter 17.</p><p>&#22899;&#20818;&#22283;, or The Kingdom of Women, is an allusion to chapter 54 of <em>Journey to the West</em><span> (&#35199;&#36938;&#35352;). If you&#8217;ve never read </span><em>Journey to the West</em><span> before, it&#8217;s worth reading the entire book just for this one chapter, which is filled with hilarious commentary on the nature of Chinese society during the Ming dynasty.</span></p><p>Jia Zheng refers to the rumor that the tree comes from The Kingdom of Women as &#33618;&#21776;&#19981;&#32147;, or utterly ridiculous and unrealistic. This is a reflection of his by-the-book Confucian attitude towards things. Notice that Jia Zheng can never seem to appreciate the aesthetic beauty of the things around him. He&#8217;s like somebody who stops reading poetry and fiction in favor of scientific journal articles.</p><p><span>&#39479;&#20154; literally means something like &#8220;sorrowful person,&#8221; and refers to poets and scholars. This reference seems to come from the long poem &#38626;&#39479; (</span><em><span>Encountering Sorrow</span></em><span>) by Qu Yuan (&#23624;&#21407;), though the word &#39479;&#20154; doesn&#8217;t actually appear in the poem. &#39479;&#20154; also shows up in the idiom &#36983;&#23458;&#39479;&#20154;, which refers to exiled government officials and scholars.</span></p><p><span>The image that Jia Baoyu conveys of a beautiful but sickly woman resting on her attendant for support (&#24369;&#22914;&#25206;&#30149;) is obviously a reference to Lin Daiyu here. It&#8217;s also a reference to the classical Chinese idea of &#30149;&#24907;&#32654;, in which a woman&#8217;s physical weakness was equated with spiritual refinement. This is part of the cultural aesthetic at the heart of Lin Daiyu&#8217;s character and personality.</span></p><p><span>Remember, of course, that Xue Baochai is also sick and needs to take pills to battle her own sickness. This is often forgotten when we talk about passages like these.</span></p><p class="button-wrapper" data-attrs="{&quot;url&quot;:&quot;https://www.redchamber.blog/p/maiden-crabapple/comments&quot;,&quot;text&quot;:&quot;Leave a comment&quot;,&quot;action&quot;:null,&quot;class&quot;:null}" data-component-name="ButtonCreateButton"><a class="button primary" href="https://www.redchamber.blog/p/maiden-crabapple/comments"><span>Leave a comment</span></a></p>]]></content:encoded></item><item><title><![CDATA[Soaking In Fragrance Gate]]></title><description><![CDATA[Another quick passage]]></description><link>https://www.redchamber.blog/p/soaking-in-fragrance-gate</link><guid isPermaLink="false">https://www.redchamber.blog/p/soaking-in-fragrance-gate</guid><dc:creator><![CDATA[Daniel Evensen]]></dc:creator><pubDate>Sun, 19 Jul 2026 11:15:33 GMT</pubDate><enclosure url="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!ph-g!,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F5a3571ad-73d2-4398-938b-b3e07420a328_594x1270.png" length="0" type="image/jpeg"/><content:encoded><![CDATA[<h1>Soaking In Fragrance Gate</h1><p class="button-wrapper" data-attrs="{&quot;url&quot;:&quot;https://www.redchamber.blog/subscribe?&quot;,&quot;text&quot;:&quot;Subscribe now&quot;,&quot;action&quot;:null,&quot;class&quot;:null}" data-component-name="ButtonCreateButton"><a class="button primary" href="https://www.redchamber.blog/subscribe?"><span>Subscribe now</span></a></p><p>This is another short passage, and is honestly a little bit awkward. There&#8217;s a clear division in the narrative both before and after this passage. We&#8217;re not entirely done with the garden tour, however; we&#8217;ve got a few more things to look at before everybody leaves the garden.</p><h2><strong>My Translation</strong></h2>
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   ]]></content:encoded></item><item><title><![CDATA[The Mysterious Past]]></title><description><![CDATA[Jia Baoyu remembers something - but he doesn't know what]]></description><link>https://www.redchamber.blog/p/the-mysterious-past</link><guid isPermaLink="false">https://www.redchamber.blog/p/the-mysterious-past</guid><dc:creator><![CDATA[Daniel Evensen]]></dc:creator><pubDate>Fri, 17 Jul 2026 11:49:02 GMT</pubDate><enclosure url="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!7_oh!,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F60c940d4-a8be-4cbe-872f-72c4581a227d_683x1274.png" length="0" type="image/jpeg"/><content:encoded><![CDATA[<h1>The Mysterious Past</h1><p>This is a short section. However, like the short sections we&#8217;ve seen before in this novel, there&#8217;s a lot going on here. More tomorrow.</p><p class="button-wrapper" data-attrs="{&quot;url&quot;:&quot;https://www.redchamber.blog/subscribe?&quot;,&quot;text&quot;:&quot;Subscribe now&quot;,&quot;action&quot;:null,&quot;class&quot;:null}" data-component-name="ButtonCreateButton"><a class="button primary" href="https://www.redchamber.blog/subscribe?"><span>Subscribe now</span></a></p><div><hr></div><h2><strong>My Translation</strong></h2>
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   ]]></content:encoded></item><item><title><![CDATA[Penglai Fairyland]]></title><description><![CDATA[An oddly inauspicious name]]></description><link>https://www.redchamber.blog/p/penglai-fairyland</link><guid isPermaLink="false">https://www.redchamber.blog/p/penglai-fairyland</guid><dc:creator><![CDATA[Daniel Evensen]]></dc:creator><pubDate>Wed, 15 Jul 2026 10:03:16 GMT</pubDate><enclosure url="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!8Pg8!,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F023dad54-ec8b-4367-b5e4-96c9866fc71c_504x1271.png" length="0" type="image/jpeg"/><content:encoded><![CDATA[<h1>Penglai Fairyland</h1><p class="button-wrapper" data-attrs="{&quot;url&quot;:&quot;https://www.redchamber.blog/subscribe?&quot;,&quot;text&quot;:&quot;Subscribe now&quot;,&quot;action&quot;:null,&quot;class&quot;:null}" data-component-name="ButtonCreateButton"><a class="button primary" href="https://www.redchamber.blog/subscribe?"><span>Subscribe now</span></a></p><p>I&#8217;ve kept this section relatively short. There is something really interesting happening here, though, which we will touch on in tomorrow&#8217;s commentary post.</p><h2><strong>My Translation</strong></h2>
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This passage is no exception. If you&#8217;re trying to follow along in Chinese, I wish you all the best, and will do my best to help you.</p><p><strong>My Translation</strong></p><p>&#8220;I&#8217;ve written a couplet as well,&#8221; said another one of the men. &#8220;Please let me know what you think.&#8221; And he recited:</p><blockquote><p>A fragrant wind drifts over the jade orchids along three paths,</p><p>The bright moonlight floods the golden orchids across a single courtyard.</p></blockquote><p>Jia Zheng stroked his beard and thought deeply, hoping to compose his own couplet. But he then raised his head and looked at Baoyu, who was standing nearby silently, not daring to say a word. &#8220;Why don&#8217;t you say something when you should be talking?&#8221; Jia Zheng demanded of him. &#8220;Are you waiting for somebody to come and beg you to teach them?&#8221;</p><p>&#8220;This place doesn&#8217;t have any musk orchids,&#8221; replied Baoyu, &#8220;nor a bright moon, nor sandbars or islets. If we&#8217;re going to keep citing cliches from the past, we could compose 200 couplets and still not be finished.&#8221;</p><p>&#8220;And who is threatening you,&#8221; replied Jia Zheng, &#8220;telling you that you absolutely have to use these words?&#8221;</p><p>&#8220;In that case,&#8221; answered Baoyu, &#8220;the best inscription for the horizontal plaque would be &#8216;The Pure Fragrance of Wild Ginger and Angelica.&#8217; And here is its couplet:</p><blockquote><p>When you compose poems next to cardamom, they remain vividly bright;</p><p>When you sleep your fill next to roseleaf raspberry, your dreams are likewise sweet.</p></blockquote><p>&#8220;But that&#8217;s just an imitation of the line &#8216;When written on banana leaves, the script still retains its green,&#8217;&#8221; replied Jia Zheng with a laugh. &#8220;There&#8217;s nothing remarkable about that.&#8221;</p><p>&#8220;But Li Bai&#8217;s poem &#8216;On the Phoenix Terrace&#8217; was an imitation of Cui Hao&#8217;s &#8216;Yellow Crane Tower,&#8217;&#8221; replied the gentlemen. &#8220;And yet it&#8217;s that style of imitation that makes it work so well. If you look closely and carefully at it, you&#8217;ll see that Baoyu&#8217;s couplet is even more refined, elegant, and lively than &#8216;Written on Banana Leaves.&#8217;&#8221;</p><p>&#8220;How in the world could that be?!&#8221; replied Jia Zheng with a smile.</p><p class="button-wrapper" data-attrs="{&quot;url&quot;:&quot;https://www.redchamber.blog/p/cardamom-and-roseleaf-raspberry/comments&quot;,&quot;text&quot;:&quot;Leave a comment&quot;,&quot;action&quot;:null,&quot;class&quot;:null}" data-component-name="ButtonCreateButton"><a class="button primary" href="https://www.redchamber.blog/p/cardamom-and-roseleaf-raspberry/comments"><span>Leave a comment</span></a></p><div><hr></div><h2><strong>Translation Critique</strong></h2><p><strong>Hawkes</strong></p><p>In <em>The Story of the Stone</em><span>, David Hawkes translates the first couplet like this:</span></p><blockquote><p>Down garden walks a fragrant breeze caresses bed of melilot.</p><p>By courtyard walls a brilliant moon illumines golden orchises.</p></blockquote><p>Honestly, I think this was probably an early draft that Hawkes inadvertently included in the final published version. The grammar makes no sense in English, and it feels like a bunch of gibberish.</p><p>Hawkes translates &#34309;&#33463;&#28165;&#33452; as &#8220;The Garden of Spices,&#8221; which I honestly find a little bit disappointing. There&#8217;s no &#8220;garden&#8221; anywhere in the name, and the references to wild ginger and angelica, plants that grow up from the ground in damp environments, are unfortunately missing.</p><p>Hawkes does an interesting job translating Baoyu&#8217;s couplet:</p><blockquote><p>Composing amidst cardamoms, you shall make verses like flowers.</p><p>Slumbering amidst the roses, you shall dream fragrant dreams.</p></blockquote><p>It&#8217;s certainly a possible interpretation, though it&#8217;s interesting to me that he uses the imperative form (&#8220;you shall&#8221;) in this poem. I never would have seen it in the original.</p><p>He translates Jia Zheng&#8217;s quotation like this:</p><blockquote><p>Composing midst the plantains</p><p>Green shall my verses be.</p></blockquote><p>However, Hawkes offers no explanatory notes, nor does he say what in the world the scholars are talking about when they reference Li Bai and Cui Hao.</p><p><strong>Yang</strong></p><p>The Yangs translate the first poem like this:</p><blockquote><p>Along three paths white angelica scents the breeze,</p><p>In the court a bright moon shines on golden orchids.</p></blockquote><p>However, this is grammatically incorrect (though at least it makes sense, unlike the David Hawkes version). If &#29577;&#34137; (&#8220;white angelica&#8221;) is &#8220;scenting the breeze&#8221; (&#39321;&#39080;, which I suppose means to add its scent to the breeze), then the flower must be the subject of the sentence. The problem, however, is that the second part of the couplet has &#37329;&#34349; (&#8220;golden orchids&#8221;) as the object and &#26126;&#26376; (a bright moon) as the subject.</p><p>Now you can see some of the difficulty involved in making a translation that actually makes sense. The hardest part is figuring out what the couplet actually means first. You can&#8217;t translate it until you understand it.</p><p>The Yangs translate &#34309;&#33463;&#28165;&#33452; as &#8220;Pure Scent of Alpinia and Iris,&#8221; which is a perfectly fine translation. And they translate Baoyu&#8217;s couplet like this:</p><blockquote><p>Singing on cardamons makes lovely poetry;</p><p>Sleeping beneath roses induces sweet dreams.</p></blockquote><p>This is also an excellent translation.</p><p>They translate Jia Zheng&#8217;s reference like this:</p><blockquote><p>Write on plantain leaves and green is the writing.</p></blockquote><p>It&#8217;s also a perfectly fine translation, though it&#8217;s not clear at all to an English reader that the three lines are supposed to be parallel.</p><p>There is a brief explanatory note about the relationship between <em>Yellow Crane Pavilion</em> and <em>Phoenix Tower</em>, but it only says that Cui Hao was &#8220;another Tang poet.&#8221; Sadly, the Yangs don&#8217;t even attempt to explain the reference.</p><p class="button-wrapper" data-attrs="{&quot;url&quot;:&quot;https://buymeacoffee.com/danielevensen&quot;,&quot;text&quot;:&quot;Buy Me A Coffee&quot;,&quot;action&quot;:null,&quot;class&quot;:null}" data-component-name="ButtonCreateButton"><a class="button primary" href="https://buymeacoffee.com/danielevensen"><span>Buy Me A Coffee</span></a></p><div><hr></div><h2><strong>Chinese Text</strong></h2><div class="captioned-image-container"><figure><a class="image-link image2 is-viewable-img" target="_blank" href="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!5Bg-!,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F0b41a6ab-7d5c-4b7e-8fa9-01a8ee7b4a5a_1214x1280.png" data-component-name="Image2ToDOM"><div class="image2-inset"><picture><source type="image/webp" srcset="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!5Bg-!,w_424,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F0b41a6ab-7d5c-4b7e-8fa9-01a8ee7b4a5a_1214x1280.png 424w, 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The poem right before this one was also filled with these cliches. Here are a few:</p><p>&#19977;&#24465; (three paths) is an allusion to Jiang Xu (&#34083;&#35425;) of the Han dynasty, a hermit who cleared three paths in his bamboo grove to receive only a select few friends. It later became a standard trope for a reclusive scholar&#8217;s garden.</p><p>&#39321;&#39080; (fragrant breeze) and &#29577;&#34137; (jade orchids) are also common literary tropes.</p><p>Similarly, &#26126;&#26376; (bright moonlight) and &#37329;&#34349; (golden orchids) are also common literary tropes.</p><p>Jia Baoyu is insisting that the scholars aren&#8217;t actually talking about the place that they&#8217;ve visited. Instead, they&#8217;re using common literary tropes to try to outdo one another in being generic. It&#8217;s like having AI write your book.</p><p>The four character title that Jia Baoyu gives this place is another nightmare for translators and Chinese students alike.</p><p>&#34309; refers to the plant &#26460;&#34913;, which is a low growing and creeping wild ginger plant with heart-shaped leaves and a subtle, spicy-sweet fragrance. It usually grows in damp, shaded forest floors.</p><p>&#33463; refers to &#30333;&#33463; or angelica. This is a tall, slender herb with white flowers and a very aromatic root. It also grows in humid and damp ground.</p><p>Jia Baoyu chooses these two flowers because they actually match the scene that they&#8217;ve come across. Notice again that the other scholars are talking about orchids, the setting sun, the moon, and other things that don&#8217;t match the scene.</p><p>&#28165; means clear; that part is pretty simple. &#33452; means fragrant or sweet smelling. This is why we call it &#8220;pure fragrance.&#8221;</p><p>The poem is even more difficult to understand.</p><p><span>&#35910;&#34107; is called cardamom in English. This is a certain spice that comes from India, </span><a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cardamom"><span>as Wikipedia tells us</span></a><span>. However, in Chinese &#35910;&#34107; also refers to the teenage years of a girl, specifically around ages 13 and 14.</span></p><p>&#33660;&#34364; means roseleaf raspberry. This is a kind of flower that blooms in the late spring and signifies the end of the flowering season. Therefore, in Chinese literature, this flower can carry with it a kind of finality or a sense of fulfilled contentment &#8211; especially if you&#8217;re sleeping around it or dreaming of it.</p><p>&#35924; means bright and gorgeous when it refers to colors; it can also mean romantic when you&#8217;re talking about love relationships.</p><p>The difficult thing about translating Baoyu&#8217;s couplet is preserving the grammatical parallel. &#30561;&#36275; means to sleep one&#8217;s fill; &#36275; is a resultative complement here. Of course, that means that &#25104; in &#21535;&#25104; must also be a resultative complement to keep to the rules of the poetic genre.</p><p>Similarly, &#35910;&#34107; and &#33660;&#34364; are not the objects of the verbs. Instead, these need to be adverbs, and likely adverbs of location. You compose poetry among or next to the &#35910;&#34107;, and you sleep among or next to or underneath the &#33660;&#34364;.</p><p>&#26360;&#25104;&#34121;&#33865;&#25991;&#29494;&#32160; comes from this couplet:</p><blockquote><p><span>&#26360;&#25104;&#34121;&#33865;&#25991;&#29494;&#32160;</span>&#65292;&#21535;&#21040;&#26757;&#33457;&#21477;&#20134;&#39321;</p></blockquote><blockquote><p>When calligraphy is finished on plantain leaves, the writing still seems green;</p><p>When one chants of plum blossoms, the verses themselves become fragrant.</p></blockquote><p>This is an anonymous couplet that was common in classical rhyming and phrasing manuals. It refers to Huaisu (&#25079;&#32032;), a monk from the Tang dynasty who could not afford paper, and so practiced his wild cursive calligraphy script on large banana leaves. You can see the parallels to Jia Baoyu&#8217;s poem even if you&#8217;re only reading this in English. Jia Zheng is saying that there&#8217;s nothing remarkable about Jia Baoyu&#8217;s couplet because it follows the exact form as that basic couplet; in fact, it&#8217;s almost the exact same meaning.</p><p><span>&#40643;&#40372;&#27155; (Yellow Crane Tower) by Cui Hao (</span>&#23828;&#39013;) goes like this:</p><blockquote><p>&#26132;&#20154;&#24050;&#20056;&#40643;&#40372;&#21435;&#65292;&#27492;&#22320;&#31354;&#39192;&#40643;&#40372;&#27155;&#12290;</p><p>&#40643;&#40372;&#19968;&#21435;&#19981;&#24489;&#36820;&#65292;&#30333;&#38642;&#21315;&#36617;&#31354;&#24736;&#24736;&#12290;</p><p>&#26228;&#24029;&#27511;&#27511;&#28450;&#38525;&#27193;&#65292;&#33459;&#33609;&#33803;&#33803;&#40474;&#40289;&#27954;&#12290;</p><p>&#26085;&#26286;&#37129;&#38364;&#20309;&#34389;&#26159;&#65311;&#29017;&#27874;&#27743;&#19978;&#20351;&#20154;&#24833;&#12290;</p></blockquote><blockquote><p>The immortal of old has already ridden the yellow crane away,</p><p>Leaving behind only this empty Yellow Crane Tower.</p><p>Once the yellow crane departed, it never returned;</p><p>For a thousand years, white clouds have drifted aimlessly.</p><p>In clear weather, the river renders every Hanyang tree distinct,</p><p>Fragrant grasses grow lush and thick on Parrot Island.</p><p>At dusk, where is the way back to my homeland?</p><p>The mist and waves upon the river fill one with sorrow.</p></blockquote><p>This refers to the Yellow Crane Tower in Wuhan. Cui Hao&#8217;s poem was famous when Li Bai (&#26446;&#30333;) visited it, and he claimed at first that he couldn&#8217;t compose anything to compete with it.</p><p>But then Li Bai came up with a poem titled &#30331;&#37329;&#38517;&#40179;&#20976;&#33274; (Ascending Phoenix Terrace in Jinling):</p><blockquote><p>&#40179;&#20976;&#21488;&#19978;&#40179;&#20976;&#36938;&#65292;&#40179;&#21435;&#21488;&#31354;&#27743;&#33258;&#27969;&#12290;</p><p>&#21555;&#23470;&#33457;&#33609;&#22475;&#24189;&#24465;&#65292;&#26185;&#20195;&#34915;&#20896;&#25104;&#21476;&#19992;&#12290;</p><p>&#19977;&#23665;&#21322;&#33853;&#38738;&#22825;&#22806;&#65292;&#20108;&#27700;&#20013;&#20998;&#30333;&#40442;&#27954;&#12290;</p><p>&#32317;&#28858;&#28014;&#38642;&#33021;&#34109;&#26085;&#65292;&#38263;&#23433;&#19981;&#35211;&#20351;&#20154;&#24833;&#12290;</p></blockquote><blockquote><p>On the Phoenix Terrace, the phoenixes once came to play;</p><p>The birds are gone, the terrace is empty, and the river flows on alone.</p><p>The flowers and grass of the Wu palaces now bury the secluded paths,</p><p>The caps and gowns of the Jin dynasty nobility have become ancient mounds.</p><p>The Three Mountains are half visible beyond the blue sky,</p><p>The dual streams divide around White Egret Island.</p><p>It is only because the drifting clouds can block the sun</p><p>That Chang&#8217;an remains hidden from view, filling one with sorrow.</p></blockquote><p>Perhaps the best comparison here is to think of Cui Hao and Li Bai as jazz musicians. Li Bai didn&#8217;t copy Cui Hao&#8217;s poem. Instead, he took the basic outline of the poem and improvised on it, sort of like a jazz master taking the chord progression and melody of a standard and turning it into his own.</p><p>You can actually see the comparisons in English. Cui Hao starts with a legendary immortal flying away on a golden crane, leaving an empty tower behind. Li Bai talks about a group of magical phoenixes flying away, leaving an empty stone platform behind. Both poems then reflect with melancholy on the empty space, then give a scenic snapshot of the immediate geography, and end with that &#8220;filling one with sorrow&#8221; (&#20351;&#20154;&#24833;) line. And, if you look even closer in Chinese, you&#8217;ll see that the grammatical structure of both poems is identical.</p><p>Of course, Cui Hao&#8217;s poem is about an immortal, almost like a fairy tale poem. It&#8217;s about the heavy weight of homesickness. Li Bai&#8217;s poem, on the other hand, is very real, and is a reflection on the collapse of the Wu and Jin dynasties. That &#8220;&#21555;&#23470;&#33457;&#33609;&#22475;&#24189;&#24465;&#65292;&#26185;&#20195;&#34915;&#20896;&#25104;&#21476;&#19992;&#8221; line (The flowers and grass of the Wu palaces now bury the secluded paths, the caps and gowns of the Jin dynasty nobility have come ancient mounds) is incredibly powerful even in translation. This is why the scholars consider Li Bai&#8217;s poem an improvement on the original, even though the original poem is absolutely brilliant.</p><p class="button-wrapper" data-attrs="{&quot;url&quot;:&quot;https://www.redchamber.blog/p/cardamom-and-roseleaf-raspberry/comments&quot;,&quot;text&quot;:&quot;Leave a comment&quot;,&quot;action&quot;:null,&quot;class&quot;:null}" data-component-name="ButtonCreateButton"><a class="button primary" href="https://www.redchamber.blog/p/cardamom-and-roseleaf-raspberry/comments"><span>Leave a comment</span></a></p><p></p>]]></content:encoded></item><item><title><![CDATA[Weeping in the Setting Sun]]></title><description><![CDATA[More poetic adventures]]></description><link>https://www.redchamber.blog/p/weeping-in-the-setting-sun</link><guid isPermaLink="false">https://www.redchamber.blog/p/weeping-in-the-setting-sun</guid><dc:creator><![CDATA[Daniel Evensen]]></dc:creator><pubDate>Sat, 11 Jul 2026 11:05:13 GMT</pubDate><enclosure url="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!puE3!,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F7341c780-a898-431f-8f0d-2ea2cb94a3f8_509x1277.png" length="0" type="image/jpeg"/><content:encoded><![CDATA[<h1>Weeping in the Setting Sun</h1><p class="button-wrapper" data-attrs="{&quot;url&quot;:&quot;https://www.redchamber.blog/subscribe?&quot;,&quot;text&quot;:&quot;Subscribe now&quot;,&quot;action&quot;:null,&quot;class&quot;:null}" data-component-name="ButtonCreateButton"><a class="button primary" href="https://www.redchamber.blog/subscribe?"><span>Subscribe now</span></a></p><p>I&#8217;m splitting this next section up into two separate posts because of the sheer amount of poetry that the characters reference here. 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There are certain words here that are almost impossible to translate and that need to be transliterated, as you&#8217;ll see below.</p><p>Meanwhile, the description of the scene in front of the group is absolutely fantastic, as if Cao Xueqin were describing the process of creating a painting.</p><div><hr></div><h2><strong>My Translation</strong></h2><p>Jia Zheng then went over to a water gate connected to the irrigation system. &#8220;Are there any boats?&#8221; he asked Jia Zhen.</p><p>&#8220;There are four lotus picking boats,&#8221; replied Jia Zhen, &#8220;as well as a larger boat, but none of them have been finished yet.&#8221;</p><p>&#8220;What a pity!&#8221; smiled Jia Zheng. &#8220;We can&#8217;t go in through the water.&#8221;</p><p>&#8220;We could also enter by following the winding path up the hill,&#8221; replied Jia Zhen. Having said this, he went ahead to lead the way.</p><p>The whole party went along, clutching vines and steadying themselves against trees. As they went, they saw that there were more and more fallen blossoms on top of the water. The water itself had become more clear, and was flowing in broad, rippling waves as it curved around. There were rows of weeping willows along both banks that were interspersed with peach and apricot trees. The tree branches were woven together like a canopy that blotted out the sky, and there was not a speck of dust in sight.</p><p>As they went along, they suddenly saw a deep red plank bridge that went along the surface of the water in a zigzag manner. When they had crossed the bridge, they discovered that there were paths leading off in every direction.</p><p>And then they saw a cool, bare-tiled structure in front of them, with walls of smooth and polished brick, flower borders on those walls, and clear gray tiles on the top. The veins of the mountain the building was built on ran straight through the brick wall, almost as if the mountain had penetrated the wall.</p><p>&#8220;This building here is simply tasteless,&#8221; remarked Jia Zheng.</p><p>And then, as he stepped into the doorway, he suddenly noticed a huge, sky-piercing bolder of exquisitely perforated rock, surrounded on all sides by clustered masses of stones of every shape, so that they completely screened out all of the inside rooms from his view. There were also no flowering trees or shrubs in sight; rather, there was a profusion of unusual herbs and plants. Some plants trailed behind as clinging vines, some stretched out with creeping tendrils, some hung down over the mountain ridges, some threaded through the feet of the rocks, some dangled from the eaves, coiled around the pillars, wound around the masonry, and twined up the steps. Some of the plants drifted like streamers of jade-green silk, some twisted like coils of golden rope, some bore berries as red as cinnabar, and some bloomed with flowers like tiny golden cassia. Their fragrance was dense and intoxicating, far beyond anything that common flowers could match.</p><p>&#8220;Amazing!&#8221; exclaimed Jia Zheng. &#8220;However, I don&#8217;t recognize most of those flowers.&#8221;</p><p>Somebody in the group suggested that there might be creeping figs and wisteria vines.</p><p>&#8220;But how could creeping figs and wisteria vines have such an extraordinary fragrance?&#8221; asked Jia Zheng.</p><p>&#8220;You&#8217;re right; those are the wrong plants,&#8221; spoke up Baoyu. &#8220;Among the many plants here, there are indeed some creeping figs and wisteria vines. However, the fragrant ones are pollia and wild ginger. That one over there is probably sweet angelica. And this kind is probably golden kudzu vine. That one is golden lantern grass, this one is jade-dew vine, the red ones are naturally purple rue, and the green ones are certainly blue angelica.</p><p>&#8220;If I remember right, among the strange plants mentioned in <em>On Encountering Sorrow</em><span> and </span><em>Selections of Refined Literature</em><span>, there are plants called &#8216;huona&#8217; and &#8216;jianghui,&#8217; and others called &#8216;lunzu&#8217; and &#8216;zijiang.&#8217; There are also varieties like the stone-sail coral, water-pine, and betel-pepper vine, which appear in Zuo Taichong&#8217;s &#8216;Rhapsody on Wu.&#8217; And then there&#8217;s the green elm-grass, as well as Sichuan peppercorn, lovage, and wind-lotus, which appear in his &#8216;Rhapsody on Shu.&#8217;</span></p><p>&#8220;Now, as the years have gone by and times have changed, people no longer recognize those names. And so in every case they seize upon the visible shape of the plants and use the wrong name, gradually giving the plants incorrect titles; it&#8217;s really a problem.&#8221;</p><p>Before he could finished, Jia Zheng shouted, &#8220;Who asked you?!&#8221;</p><p>Startled, Baoyu recoiled and didn&#8217;t say another word.</p><p class="button-wrapper" data-attrs="{&quot;url&quot;:&quot;https://www.redchamber.blog/p/plant-world/comments&quot;,&quot;text&quot;:&quot;Leave a comment&quot;,&quot;action&quot;:null,&quot;class&quot;:null}" data-component-name="ButtonCreateButton"><a class="button primary" href="https://www.redchamber.blog/p/plant-world/comments"><span>Leave a comment</span></a></p><div><hr></div><h2><strong>Translation Critique</strong></h2><p><strong>Hawkes</strong></p><p>We&#8217;re going to need to pull out the dictionary for this one.</p><p>Hawkes describes that the group sees the stream as they climb up the hill. They see that the stream up there &#8220;was wide and deep and distorted by many anfractuosities.&#8221; <em>Anfractuosity</em><span> is one of those high level vocabulary words that makes you despise the person who said it. It means a winding channel or crevice, in particular one that occurs in the depths of the seas or in the mountains.</span></p><p>And, as you probably guessed, that isn&#8217;t the end of the unusual words that David Hawkes uses here. I&#8217;ll give you a quick rundown of what these words refer to.</p><p><em>Birthwort</em><span> is the common name of </span><a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Aristolochia"><span>Aristolochia</span></a><span>, which is a major species of plant.</span></p><p><em>Actinidia</em><span> seems to be an Italian word for kiwifruit.</span></p><p><em>Agastache</em><span> means a giant hyssop.</span></p><p><em>Eulalia</em><span> is commonly referred to by names such as &#8220;dwarf maiden grass,&#8221; &#8220;zebra grass,&#8221; &#8220;porcupine grass,&#8221; and so on.</span></p><p><em>Eglantine</em><span> is a kind of Eurasian rose with prickly stems and fragrant leave.s</span></p><p><em>Amaranth</em><span> was originally the name of an imaginary flower that does not wither; these days it refers to any plants of the genus Amaranthus.</span></p><p><em>Xanthoxylon</em><span> refers to a certain tree.</span></p><p><em>Anemone</em><span> refers to plants like the windflower.</span></p><p><em>Phellopteron</em><span> really confuses me, since </span><a href="https://www.eol.org/pages/81130"><span>it seems to be a kind of fly</span></a><span>.</span></p><p>Hawkes decides not to translate the book names <em>Li sao</em> and <em>Wen xuan</em>. That&#8217;s just as well, since they really aren&#8217;t that important. Also, I recommend not getting too hung up on which characters translate to which plant name here, as I think Hawkes decided to come up with the most obscure plant names he could find.</p><p><strong>Yang</strong></p><p>The Yangs have given us a bunch of difficult plant names as well.</p><p><em>Dolichos</em><span> refers to a certain type of plant in Africa and Asia.</span></p><p><em>Glycyrrhizai </em><span>is another general genus of plant.</span></p><p>The Yangs then keep the more difficult plant names in transcribed Chinese: <em>huona, chiangtan, tsulun, chiangtzu, shihfan, shuisung, fuliu, luyi, tanchiao, miwu, </em>and <em>fenglien</em>. There are no explanatory notes for any of these transliterations, which I take as a sign that the Yangs honestly didn&#8217;t know what plants Jia Baoyu was referring to.</p><p class="button-wrapper" data-attrs="{&quot;url&quot;:&quot;https://buymeacoffee.com/danielevensen&quot;,&quot;text&quot;:&quot;Buy Me A Coffee&quot;,&quot;action&quot;:null,&quot;class&quot;:null}" data-component-name="ButtonCreateButton"><a class="button primary" href="https://buymeacoffee.com/danielevensen"><span>Buy Me A Coffee</span></a></p><div><hr></div><h2><strong>Chinese Text</strong></h2><div class="captioned-image-container"><figure><a class="image-link image2 is-viewable-img" target="_blank" href="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!N50v!,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F4a695a97-ea97-459d-ba16-6d8983361a75_686x1264.png" data-component-name="Image2ToDOM"><div class="image2-inset"><picture><source type="image/webp" 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This would have been a rather large water gate, big enough for a boat to fit through (which is why he asks Jia Zhen about boats).</p><p>&#25505;&#34030;&#33337;, or a &#8220;lotus picking boat,&#8221; is a small pleasure boat created for leisurely passing around the lotus plants.</p><p>&#24231;&#33337; was a larger boat with seats.</p><p>&#28342;&#28342;&#34153;&#34153; describes a body of water that is broad and gently rolling and surging. I think of this as having light rippling waves.</p><p>&#26354;&#25240;&#32264;&#32006; means twisting or winding</p><p>&#26495;&#27211; is more than an ordinary bridge. This is a &#8220;plank bridge,&#8221; which was a flat wooden bridge that would have looked like a kind of sash or belt on top of the water. The bridge is described as &#25240;, or folded. The idea here is that the bridge was deliberately made in a zigzag manner, one that almost looked like it was folded. This was for artistic effect, and would have forced anybody crossing it to take their time instead of going quickly.</p><p>Note how quickly Jia Zheng&#8217;s attitude towards the house changes. The reader is able to understand the overall artistic value of the building through his sudden shift of opinion.</p><p>&#34204;&#33620; means creeping fig and &#34204;&#33620; means Chinese wisteria. These are relatively common plants in China.</p><p>&#26460;&#33509; is known as East Asian pollia, <span>and is a plant with white flowers and a subtle, clear scent. It is a symbol of pure virtue.</span></p><p>&#34309;&#34154; means wild ginger, and is a low-growing plant with a leaf shaped like a heart and a spicy fragrance.</p><p>&#33565;&#34349; means sweet angelica, and is a tall, aromatic parsley herb used in traditional Chinese medicine.</p><p>&#37329;&#33883;, or golden kudzu vine, is a fast growing exotic vine with golden yellow roots, which is why it&#8217;s called &#8220;golden.&#8221;</p><p>&#37329;&#17714;&#33609; is an obscure ancient name; we&#8217;re going to have more of those. This is likely a kind of grass with golden seedheads that look like lanterns.</p><p>&#29577;&#34135;&#34276; is another unknown species, and was probably a vine with leaves that looked like jade.</p><p>The names &#37329;&#17714;&#33609; and &#29577;&#34135;&#34276; are both pretty obscure, and there seems to be a reason they are used here. This particular phrasing seems to refer to the poem <em>Immortals at the Magpie Bridge</em><span> (&#40522;&#26725;&#20185;&#183;&#32420;&#20113;&#24324;&#24039;) by the Song dynasty poet Qin Guan (&#31206;&#35264;):</span></p><blockquote><p>&#37329;&#39080;&#38632;&#38706;&#19968;&#30456;&#36898;&#65292;&#20415;&#21371;&#21213;&#20154;&#38291;&#28961;&#25976;</p></blockquote><blockquote><p>When the golden wind meets the jade dew a single time, it surpasses countless unions in the mortal world.</p></blockquote><p>In <em>Dream of the Red Chamber</em>, there&#8217;s a pretty common symbol of a bond between gold and jade (&#37329;&#29577;&#33391;&#32227;). This generally refers to the romance between Xue Baochai and Jia Baoyu. As you may recall, Jia Baoyu has a piece of jade around his neck, while Xue Baochai wears a golden lock that a Buddhist monk gave her.</p><p>In contrast, the wood-stone vow (&#26408;&#30707;&#21069;&#30431;) refers to the relationship between Lin Daiyu (originally a flower, therefore referred to as &#8220;wood&#8221;) and Jia Baoyu (originally a stone).</p><p>There is a reason why gold and jade are meeting together at this particular place, though we&#8217;ll learn more about that later in the book.</p><p>&#32043;&#33464; means purple rue. This is a strongly aromatic herb with tinges that are slightly bluish-purple.</p><p>&#38738;&#33463; means the blue angelica. This is similar to the &#33565;&#34349; (sweet angelica) listed above, except that it&#8217;s a blue-green color.</p><p>&#38626;&#39479; or <em>On Encountering Sorrow</em><span> was written by Qu Yuan somewhere around 300 BC. In the book, Qu Yuan drapes himself in orchids and angelicas as a metaphor for his untarnished virtue in a corrupt court. The plants he names are all symbols of moral purity. And, yes, it&#8217;s ironic that Jia Baoyu would quote this particular book, out of all possible books, in preparation for the visit of his imperial sister-in-law.</span></p><p>&#25991;&#36984;, or <em>Selections of Refined Literature</em><span>, was compiled by Xiao Tong, the Crown Prince of Liang around 530 AD. This important literary anthology canonized a number of older poetic forms and preserved the poems that Jia Baoyu is about to quote. And, yes, it&#8217;s very impressive that Jia Baoyu can quote obscure passages from this book at length.</span></p><p><span>&#34303;&#32013; and </span>&#23004;&#21295; (&#8220;huona&#8221; and &#8220;jianghui&#8221;) are ancient words from what is now Jiangsu Province. These likely referred to wild gingers and turmeric-like spices that grew in the humid south. We don&#8217;t know the actual plants these refer to.</p><p>&#32184;&#32068; and &#32043;&#32115; (&#8220;lunzu&#8221; and &#8220;zijiang&#8221;) are likely different kind of vines. &#8220;Lunzu&#8221; means &#8220;silk cord,&#8221; which is probably a vine that looked like a twisted rope. &#8220;Zijiang&#8221; means &#8220;purple crimson,&#8221; and, from the context, was probably a vine with red and purple stems.</p><p>&#30707;&#24070; is &#8220;stone-sail coral,&#8221; and is a kind of coral that washes ashore. It&#8217;s not a land plant at all. Jia Baoyu is showing off his knowledge of obscure plants in poems.</p><p>&#28165;&#39686; is called the &#8220;water-pine.&#8221; Despite its name, it&#8217;s actually a floating aquatic plant.</p><p>&#25206;&#30041; is the betel-peper vine, or a vine with leaves that are chewed along with betel nut.</p><p>&#21555;&#37117;&#36070; (&#8220;Rhapsody on Wu&#8221;) and &#34560;&#37117;&#36070; (&#8220;Rhapsody on Shu&#8221;) are two poems from the three poem series &#19977;&#37117;&#36070; (Rhapsodies on Three Cities) by Zuo Taichong (&#24038;&#22826;&#27798;, about 250 to 305 AD). These were extremely famous and beloved poems at the time, and are well known today, as Jia Baoyu is demonstrating.</p><p>&#32160;&#33617; means &#8220;Green elm-grass,&#8221; and is the tender young sprout of the elm tree. It might also refer to a plant that looks a lot like those young sprouts.</p><p>&#20025;&#26898;, or Sichuan peppercorn, is the numbing spice that makes Sichuan cuisine famous.</p><p>&#34364;&#34154;, or lovage, is a fragrant herb mentioned in <em>On Encountering Sorrow</em><span> as a symbol of separation and longing.</span></p><p>&#39080;&#34030; is a lotus or water-lily that sways in the breeze. This is a purely poetic flower.</p><p>When Jia Baoyu complains about &#20687;&#24418;&#22890;&#21517; (people seizing on the shape of an object and usurping the true name), he is alluding to the Confucian teaching that the first step to a harmonious society is to call things by the proper name. Of course, it&#8217;s ironic that Jia Baoyu is telling this <em>to his father</em>, which is a direct affront to all Confucian sensibility.</p><p class="button-wrapper" data-attrs="{&quot;url&quot;:&quot;https://www.redchamber.blog/p/plant-world/comments&quot;,&quot;text&quot;:&quot;Leave a comment&quot;,&quot;action&quot;:null,&quot;class&quot;:null}" data-component-name="ButtonCreateButton"><a class="button primary" href="https://www.redchamber.blog/p/plant-world/comments"><span>Leave a comment</span></a></p><p></p>]]></content:encoded></item><item><title><![CDATA[Smartweed and Flowers]]></title><description><![CDATA[Jia Zheng criticizes Jia Baoyu again]]></description><link>https://www.redchamber.blog/p/smartweed-and-flowers</link><guid isPermaLink="false">https://www.redchamber.blog/p/smartweed-and-flowers</guid><dc:creator><![CDATA[Daniel Evensen]]></dc:creator><pubDate>Tue, 07 Jul 2026 10:01:44 GMT</pubDate><enclosure url="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!tOLe!,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2Fb94dbec3-09ba-4f5d-84b1-f75d82db14c5_763x1268.png" length="0" type="image/jpeg"/><content:encoded><![CDATA[<h1>Smartweed and Flowers</h1><p>This is yet another one of those sections that you&#8217;d probably gloss over quickly if you were only reading this book in English.  And, of course, that&#8217;s a good reason for us to go slowly and focus.</p><p>There&#8217;s actually a lot going on here, and we&#8217;ll wind up coming back to this passage a few times before the book ends.</p><p class="button-wrapper" data-attrs="{&quot;url&quot;:&quot;https://www.redchamber.blog/subscribe?&quot;,&quot;text&quot;:&quot;Subscribe now&quot;,&quot;action&quot;:null,&quot;class&quot;:null}" data-component-name="ButtonCreateButton"><a class="button primary" href="https://www.redchamber.blog/subscribe?"><span>Subscribe now</span></a></p><h2><strong>My Translation</strong></h2>
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   ]]></content:encoded></item><item><title><![CDATA[The Fragrance Of Beautiful Clouds]]></title><description><![CDATA[An extremely puzzling poem]]></description><link>https://www.redchamber.blog/p/the-fragrance-of-beautiful-clouds</link><guid isPermaLink="false">https://www.redchamber.blog/p/the-fragrance-of-beautiful-clouds</guid><dc:creator><![CDATA[Daniel Evensen]]></dc:creator><pubDate>Sun, 05 Jul 2026 10:01:20 GMT</pubDate><enclosure url="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!_-gr!,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F2c797daf-fd96-4a22-a011-849fb7441ac8_1107x1281.png" length="0" type="image/jpeg"/><content:encoded><![CDATA[<h1>The Fragrance Of Beautiful Clouds</h1><p class="button-wrapper" data-attrs="{&quot;url&quot;:&quot;https://www.redchamber.blog/subscribe?&quot;,&quot;text&quot;:&quot;Subscribe now&quot;,&quot;action&quot;:null,&quot;class&quot;:null}" data-component-name="ButtonCreateButton"><a class="button primary" href="https://www.redchamber.blog/subscribe?"><span>Subscribe now</span></a></p><p>If you thought the last two translation passages were deep, just wait. This one is even more difficult to understand, and will require a lot of digging and pruning. But it&#8217;s worth the effort.</p><h2><strong>My Translation</strong></h2>
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   ]]></content:encoded></item><item><title><![CDATA[Ignored Tea And Abandoned Chess]]></title><description><![CDATA[A symbol for a coming catastrophe]]></description><link>https://www.redchamber.blog/p/ignored-tea-and-abandoned-chess</link><guid isPermaLink="false">https://www.redchamber.blog/p/ignored-tea-and-abandoned-chess</guid><dc:creator><![CDATA[Daniel Evensen]]></dc:creator><pubDate>Mon, 29 Jun 2026 10:57:12 GMT</pubDate><enclosure url="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!FePD!,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F936ab845-67d0-4b65-a66b-77bd6ddb970f_1026x1250.png" length="0" type="image/jpeg"/><content:encoded><![CDATA[<h1>Ignored Tea And Abandoned Chess</h1><p class="button-wrapper" data-attrs="{&quot;url&quot;:&quot;https://www.redchamber.blog/subscribe?&quot;,&quot;text&quot;:&quot;Subscribe now&quot;,&quot;action&quot;:null,&quot;class&quot;:null}" data-component-name="ButtonCreateButton"><a class="button primary" href="https://www.redchamber.blog/subscribe?"><span>Subscribe now</span></a></p><p>Jia Baoyu&#8217;s brilliance is on display again today. This is a pretty complex and dense passage, and I probably should have split it up into two or three posts. Enjoy today&#8217;s long translation post and complex explanation!</p><div><hr></div><h2><strong>My Translation</strong></h2><p>The group then left the pavilion, went across the pond, and were careful to examine every hill, every rock, every flower, and every tree along their way. After a while, when they raised their heads, they suddenly saw a row of whitewashed walls surrounding several tall rooms, partially shaded by a dense grove of countless green bamboo trees. &#8220;What an excellent spot!&#8221; everybody exclaimed as they entered.</p><p>After they entered through the gateway, they found themselves walking along a winding covered walkway. There was a path paved with small pebbles below the steps which led onward to a tiny building with three rooms: two bright rooms with windows and one darker inner room. Every piece of furniture inside, including couches, tables, chairs, and desks, had been custom built to fit the exact proportions of the rooms. A small door led out from the inner room to a garden in the back, where large pear trees and broad-leaved plantains grew, along with two small paths leading to the outside of the compound.</p><p>There was a narrow opening at the bottom of the rear garden wall that enclosed a stream of spring water. There was a shallow channel, about a foot wide, that carried the water under the wall. This channel wound around the steps, enclosed the house, flowed out into the front courtyard, and went in and out of the bamboo trees before finally draining away.</p><p>&#8220;This really is a nice area,&#8221; said Jia Zheng with a smile. &#8220;If you could come here on a moonlit night to read by these windows, surely your life would not be lived in vain!&#8221; He glanced over at Baoyu as he said these words.</p><p>Baoyu was startled and quickly dropped his head. The others intervened with some casual chatter to smooth things over.</p><p>&#8220;We really ought to find four characters for the plaque by this scene,&#8221; spoke two of the scholars.</p><p>&#8220;Which four characters?&#8221; asked Jia Zheng with a smile.</p><p>&#8220;How about &#8216;The Legacy of the Qi River?&#8217;&#8221; suggested one scholar.</p><p>&#8220;That&#8217;s too obvious,&#8221; replied Jia Zhen.</p><p>&#8220;What about &#8216;The Relics of the Sui Garden?&#8217;&#8221; asked another scholar.</p><p>&#8220;That&#8217;s also too common,&#8221; replied Jia Zheng.</p><p>Jia Zhen was standing nearby, and he spoke up. &#8220;Maybe we should let Baoyu come up with one here.&#8221;</p><p>&#8220;Before he comes up with his idea,&#8221; said Jia Zheng with a hint of frustration, &#8220;he should find fault with what the others have said first. Then we can see how flippant and arrogant he really is.&#8221;</p><p>&#8220;But his criticisms are correct,&#8221; replied the scholars. &#8220;We really can&#8217;t help it.&#8221;</p><p>&#8220;Don&#8217;t indulge him so much,&#8221; replied Jia Zheng hastily. He then turned to Jia Baoyu. &#8220;Today I&#8217;ll let you speak as wildly and recklessly as you like. However, you may only compose your own title after you&#8217;ve given us your criticism. Now, among the suggestions you just heard, is there any that you think we could use?&#8221;</p><p>&#8220;None of them seem quite right,&#8221; said Baoyu after thinking about Jia Zheng&#8217;s question.</p><p>&#8220;Why aren&#8217;t they quite right?&#8221; asked Jia Zheng with a cold smile.</p><p>&#8220;This is the very first place for the imperial visit,&#8221; said Jia Baoyu. &#8220;The inscription needs to extol the imperial presence above all. And besides, if we&#8217;re going to use a four character plaque here, why make a new one when perfectly good ancient models already exist?&#8221;</p><p>&#8220;Wait,&#8221; replied Jia Zheng. &#8220;Don&#8217;t you realize that &#8216;Qi River&#8217; and &#8216;Sui Garden&#8217; come from ancient sources?&#8221;</p><p>&#8220;Yes,&#8221; said Baoyu, &#8220;but they are too stiff and predictable. It would be much better to use the phrase &#8216;The Phoenix Arrives In Ritual Splendor.&#8217;&#8221;</p><p>&#8220;Absolutely brilliant!&#8221; exclaimed all the scholars.</p><p>&#8220;You little beast,&#8221; said Jia Zheng as he nodded. &#8220;You&#8217;ve only got a shallow and limited view of the whole thing. Now let&#8217;s see you come up with a matching couplet poem to go along with it.&#8221;</p><p>Baoyu composed this poem:</p><blockquote><p>In the precious kettle, the tea sits idle, and the steam is green;</p><p>By the quiet window, the chess game is abandoned, and the fingers are cold.</p></blockquote><p>&#8220;Nothing remarkable at all,&#8221; muttered Jia Zheng as he shook his head. And he then led the party out.</p><p class="button-wrapper" data-attrs="{&quot;url&quot;:&quot;https://www.redchamber.blog/p/ignored-tea-and-abandoned-chess/comments&quot;,&quot;text&quot;:&quot;Leave a comment&quot;,&quot;action&quot;:null,&quot;class&quot;:null}" data-component-name="ButtonCreateButton"><a class="button primary" href="https://www.redchamber.blog/p/ignored-tea-and-abandoned-chess/comments"><span>Leave a comment</span></a></p><div><hr></div><h2><strong>Translation Critique</strong></h2><p><strong>Hawkes</strong></p><p>Hawkes describes that Jia Zheng&#8217;s &#8220;glance happened to fall on Bao-yu, who instantly became so embarrassed that he hung his head in shame.&#8221; This makes no sense at all in this context. Instead, Jia Zheng looked at Jia Baoyu <em>deliberately</em><span> because his phrase about studying beside the window on a moonlit night was intended to test Jia Baoyu&#8217;s literary abilities. It&#8217;s not necessarily a mistranslation; however, if you only read </span><em>The Story of the Stone</em><span>, you&#8217;re going to be very confused by this passage.</span></p><p>Thankfully, David Hawkes gives us a direct quotation to explain what &#28103;&#27700;&#36986;&#39080; (&#8220;Where Bends the Qi&#8221;) means:</p><blockquote><p>&#8220;&#8216;Where Bends The Qi&#8217;&#8221; said one of them, no doubt having in mind the song in the <em>Poetry Classic</em> which begins with the words</p><p>See in that nook where bends the Qi,</p><p>The green bamboos, how graceful grown!</p></blockquote><p>I honestly wish Hawkes would have done this more frequently with the other literary allusions in this book.</p><p>Unfortunately, the Sui Garden reference doesn&#8217;t work quite as well:</p><blockquote><p>&#8220;&#8216;North of the Sui&#8217;&#8221; said the other, evidently thinking of the ancient Rabbit Garden of the Prince of Liang in Suiyang &#8211; also famous for its bamboos and running water.</p></blockquote><p>This <em>kind of</em> works, except that it misses the point. The point is that the &#30562;&#22290; was also a famous literary gathering place that served pretty much the same role that this garden will serve as we continue through <em>Dream of the Red Chamber</em>. However, Hawkes says nothing here about the literary role of that garden.</p><p>Hawkes also explains Jia Baoyu&#8217;s suggestion to a certain extent:</p><blockquote><p>This is the first building our visitor will enter when she looks over the garden, so there ought to be some word of praise for the Emperor at this point. If we want a classical reference with imperial symbolism, I suggest &#8220;The Phoenix Dance,&#8221; alluding to that passage in the <em>History Classic</em> about the male and female phoenixes alighting &#8220;with measured gambollings&#8221; in the Emperor&#8217;s courtyard.</p></blockquote><p>I was confused about this when I first read it several years ago, especially the &#8220;gambollings&#8221; part. To <em>gambol</em> means to frolic or move about playfully. Unfortunately for David Hawkes, this is actually a mistranslation of &#31787;&#38902;&#20061;&#25104;&#65292;&#40179;&#20976;&#20358;&#20736;, where the phoenix comes in to perform a ritual. The problem is that &#20736; means to perform a ritual, not to dance or rest or play around or whatever.</p><p>Hawkes translates the poem like this:</p><blockquote><p>From the empty cauldron the steam still rises after the brewing of tea.</p><p>By the darkening window the fingers are still cold after the game of Go.</p></blockquote><p>The problem with this translation is that the steam isn&#8217;t green. It needs to be green. If the steam isn&#8217;t green, then there is no allusion at all to the bamboo, and the poem doesn&#8217;t make any sense.</p><p>The other problem is that the cauldron is not &#8220;empty.&#8221; It&#8217;s &#8220;precious&#8221; (&#23542;). In fact, the cauldron is not really empty. The tea is ready and is cooling off, but the person inside is not paying any attention because of the amazing scene outside the window.</p><p>Note as well that the original poem implies that the game of chess has been ignored as much as the tea sitting in the cauldron. Your fingers wouldn&#8217;t be <em>cold</em> after a game of chess or Go. Your fingers would be warm. Your fingers would only be cold if the game never took place to begin with, which is what this poem actually means.</p><p><strong>Yang</strong></p><p>The Yangs have Jia Baoyu hang &#8220;his head in confusion&#8221; after his father makes the comment and looks at him. This is not a correct translation. Jia Baoyu understands what his father expects of him, but is hanging his head because it&#8217;s not really his place right now to come up with some spectacular poem on the spot.</p><p>The Yangs translate the first suggestion as &#8220;Shades of the River Chi,&#8221; with a note explaining that &#8220;According to the <em>Book of Songs</em>, the area around the River Chi, in the northern part of present-day Honan, abounded with bamboo in ancient time.&#8221; This is sort of correct, but it misses the point of the reference to &#28103;&#22887;. The point here is the comparison between the bamboo and an upright gentleman &#8211; which is actually also why this name is inappropriate, as Jia Baoyu correctly points out.</p><p>The second name is translated as &#8220;Traces of the Sui Garden,&#8221; which is explained in a footnote as &#8220;Garden of Prince Hsiao of Liang in the Han Dynasty.&#8221; That&#8217;s correct, of course. However, as was the case with David Hawkes&#8217; translation, the problem is that no context or explanation is given. Actually, the Sui Garden is an excellent foreshadowing of what this garden is going to become as this book continues.</p><p>They translate Jia Baoyu&#8217;s title as &#8220;Where the Phoenix Alights,&#8221; which is okay, but not entirely correct. Remember that &#20736; refers to a ritual act, not just arriving.</p><p>They translate Baoyu&#8217;s poem like this:</p><blockquote><p>Still green the smoke from tea brewed in a rare tripod;</p><p>Yet cold the fingers from chess played by quiet window.</p></blockquote><p>They get the &#8220;green smoke&#8221; or &#8220;green steam&#8221; image correct. However, as I&#8217;ve noted elsewhere, it&#8217;s not possible for the chess game to have actually been played if the fingers were cold. Rather, the implication in this poem is that the person inside hasn&#8217;t drunk the team or played the game of chess because she is so caught up in the fantastic scene outside the window.</p><p class="button-wrapper" data-attrs="{&quot;url&quot;:&quot;https://buymeacoffee.com/danielevensen&quot;,&quot;text&quot;:&quot;Buy Me A Coffee&quot;,&quot;action&quot;:null,&quot;class&quot;:null}" data-component-name="ButtonCreateButton"><a class="button primary" href="https://buymeacoffee.com/danielevensen"><span>Buy Me A Coffee</span></a></p><div><hr></div><h2><strong>Chinese Text</strong></h2><div class="captioned-image-container"><figure><a class="image-link image2 is-viewable-img" target="_blank" href="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!FePD!,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F936ab845-67d0-4b65-a66b-77bd6ddb970f_1026x1250.png" data-component-name="Image2ToDOM"><div class="image2-inset"><picture><source 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In this case, &#20462; means &#8220;tall,&#8221; not &#8220;to repair.&#8221;</p><p>&#32736;&#31481; means green bamboo</p><p>Notice that the water curves and winds under the bamboo trees rather than flowing straight. This was considered to be auspicious because the &#8220;vital energy,&#8221; or <em>qi</em><span> (&#27683;), was slowed down by this process. And, of course, it&#8217;s more common in nature to see water that flows one way and the other instead of water that moves in a straight line.</span></p><p>This passage shows the expectations Jia Zheng has of his son. When he looks at Jia Baoyu after making his remark about reading by the window, he&#8217;s expecting Jia Baoyu to spontaneously produce fascinating poetry. Jia Baoyu isn&#8217;t dropping his head because of guilt; rather, it&#8217;s because he knows what his father expects. And the response by the men around them is an attempt to lighten the tension a bit and distract Jia Zheng.</p><p>&#28103;&#27700;&#36986;&#39080; is a direct allusion to a poem in the &#35433;&#32147;, or <span>the </span><em>Classic of Poetry</em><span>. More specifically, it is a poem called &#28103;&#22885;, &#8220;The Bamboo Pole,&#8221; in the &#34907;&#39080; or &#8220;Odes of Wei&#8221; section. This is the beginning of the group of three poems:</span></p><blockquote><p>&#30651;&#24444;&#28103;&#22887;&#65292;&#32160;&#31481;&#29463;&#29463;&#12290;</p><p>&#26377;&#21290;&#21531;&#23376;&#65292;&#22914;&#20999;&#22914;&#30923;&#65292;&#22914;&#29730;&#22914;&#30952;&#12290;</p></blockquote><blockquote><p>Look at that bend of the Qi River,</p><p>Where the green bamboos grow so lush and fair.</p><p>There is a man of such refined grace,</p><p>As if he were cut, as if he were polished,</p><p>As if he were carved, as if he were ground.</p></blockquote><p>The phrase &#28103;&#22887; is similarly repeated in the other three poems.</p><p>The notable element here is the fact that the rising green bamboo trees along the Qi River are used to praise a man of noble virtue and profound learning.</p><p>As you can see, when the scholar says &#28103;&#27700;&#36986;&#39080;, the only allusion to the poem is &#28103;&#27700; itself. &#36986;&#39080; literally means &#8220;handed down wind&#8221; or &#8220;bequeathed wind,&#8221; as if the wind or spirit or feeling of the past were handed down from generation to generation. Basically, the title &#28103;&#27700;&#36986;&#39080; is presumptuous, as if to say that this combination of room and trees were somehow the entire embodiment of the old legacy of the Odes of Wei (&#34907;&#39080;).</p><p>Jia Zhen replies that it&#8217;s &#8220;obvious&#8221; or &#8220;common&#8221; (&#20439;) because of how famous the allusion to &#28103;&#22887; (the Qi River) was. There&#8217;s also a hint here of being a bit presumptuous.</p><p>&#30562;&#22290;&#36986;&#36447; is a historical allusion to a legendary royal garden built during the Weestern Han dynasty. This garden was actually called the &#26753;&#22290; or Liang Garden. However, it was located in the ancient city of Suiyang (&#30562;&#38525;) in what is now Henan Province. This was a massive garden filled with palaces, pavilions, exotic animals, and huge bamboo groves.</p><p>This Sui Garden was known in large part for being the literary and cultural center of its time. Writers lived in the garden, composed poetry, and had numerous intellectual discussions, which itself is a foreshadowing of what we&#8217;re about to see in the remaining chapters of <em>Dream of the Red Chamber</em><span>.</span></p><p>It seems at first glance that the Sui Garden reference is fitting. The problem, however, is that it&#8217;s another famous literary clich&#233;, and it is somewhat stiff and pedantic.</p><p>It seems a little bit odd that Jia Zheng scolds Jia Baoyu as &#36629;&#34180;&#26481;&#35199; (a flippant, arrogant thing) here before he has said a word. This might be because this entire scene is set up basically as a charade to showcase Jia Baoyu&#8217;s literary brilliance. Jia Zheng might be worried that he feels arrogant and might have added in this snide remark to cut Jia Baoyu down to size.</p><p>Jia Baoyu&#8217;s title &#26377;&#40179;&#20358;&#20736; (A Phoenix Comes Here In Splendor) is a line taken from the &#23578;&#26360;, or <em>Book of Documents</em>. The original passage described the reign of the legendary King Shun:</p><blockquote><p>&#31787;&#38902;&#20061;&#25104;&#65292;&#40179;&#20976;&#20358;&#20736;&#12290;</p></blockquote><blockquote><p>When the Xiao-Shao music was played in nine movements, the phoenix came and performed its ritual dance.</p></blockquote><p>Note that &#20736; literally means to perform a ritual. When I say &#8220;splendor&#8221; in the translation of the title, what I mean is a type of ritual splendor; the phoenix, or Jia Yuanchun, is coming here to perform an important ritual just as the phoenix that visited King Shun did thousands of years earlier.</p><p>The appearance of the phoenix in this context was a sort of cosmic endorsement of the virtue of King Shun. In other words, heaven was so pleased with the moral governance of King Shun that it sent the phoenix as a living symbol of peace, prosperity, and the heavenly mandate.</p><p>Baoyu&#8217;s use of this phrase is actually brilliant when you think about it. Even though this is a direct classical reference, it&#8217;s really forward looking. Instead of talking about the handed down remnants of the Qi River or the relics of the long since destroyed Liang Garden in Suiyang, his reference looks forward to imperial visit.</p><p>Remember that the phoenix (&#40179;) often referred to imperial women, sort of like how the dragon (&#40845;) would refer to imperial men, or to the Emperor. In other words, when Jia Baoyu says that the phoenix is coming here to rest, it is a direct reference to Jia Yuanchun coming to stay in this garden. And the fact that Jia Baoyu has taken a well known classical phrase and has adapted it to an entirely new context is precisely why the scholars praise him so highly.</p><p>&#31649;&#31418;&#34849;&#28204; literally means to look at the sky through a bamboo tube and to try to measure the depth of the sea with a water gourd. Jia Zheng is rhetorically criticizing Jia Baoyu as being uneducated and shortsighted. The interesting thing, though, is that he nodded in approval while he said this, which shows that he&#8217;s actually quite proud of his son. Jia Zheng is basically caught between wanting to praise his child and the necessity of maintaining his stern and Confucian disciplinarian fatherly image. And that&#8217;s probably why he uses such harsh language here.</p><p>There&#8217;s also a feeling among commentators that Jia Zheng might be criticizing <em>himself</em> with this language, and not his son.</p><p>Note that the poem &#23542;&#40718;&#33590;&#38290;&#29017;&#23578;&#32160;&#65292;&#24189;&#31383;&#26827;&#32631;&#25351;&#29494;&#28092; is a couplet where the grammar follows the exact same pattern in both lines. In other words, &#33590;&#38290; (the tea is idle, or the tea has been brewed but nobody is drinking it) and &#26827;&#32631; (the chess or <em>go</em> game has been abandoned, or finished) are parallel, the descriptive words &#23542;&#40718; (in the precious kettle) and &#24189;&#31383; (by the quiet window) are parallel, and the phrases &#29017;&#23578;&#32160; (the steam is still green) and &#25351;&#29494;&#28092; (the fingers are still cool) are also parallel.</p><p>The question, of course, is what precisely is this poem about? The tea has grown cold because it&#8217;s idle and the chess game is either over or has been abandoned (note that &#32631; usually means &#8220;finished,&#8221; but probably means &#8220;abandoned&#8221; in this case). And yet the occupant of the room has not left. Why? This is likely because they are sitting in quiet contemplation, absorbed in the beauty that they see outside the window.</p><p>Or, in other words, the scene they saw was so beautiful that they neglected to drink the tea or play the chess game. They are contemplating while sitting in this space, allowing their life to slow down to appreciate the beauty around them. And the thing that they&#8217;re obviously observing is the impressive bamboo right outside the window.</p><p>It&#8217;s almost certainly true that the chess game is <em>abandoned</em> and not <em>finished</em>, even though &#32631; usually means &#8220;to finish.&#8221; The reason why is because the fingers are cold (&#25351;&#29494;&#28092;). If you just finished a game of chess, your fingers would be warm, not cold.</p><p>Obviously, this does not directly refer to the name &#26377;&#40179;&#20358;&#20736; (A Phoenix Comes Here To Rest), which is probably why Jia Zheng dismisses the poem outright. But, of course, there is an indirect reference. The phoenix traditionally was believed to dwell in bamboo groves and eat bamboo seeds. Therefore, it would naturally be appropriate for the phoenix to spend her time resting in a place like this, lost in silent contemplation of the world outside the window. It&#8217;s a pretty subtle poem, but it&#8217;s exciting when you understand it.</p><p>The most amazing part about this poem is that Jia Baoyu never actually talks about the bamboo, even though it&#8217;s clearly the highlight. The poem says nothing about what lies outside the window. However, the phrase &#29017;&#23578;&#32160; (the steam is still green) is the clue. The steam of tea isn&#8217;t green, of course. The reason it <em>appears</em> to be green, however, is because of the dense green light that pours into the room and permeates everything around it. That color comes from the dense grove of bamboo trees that lie outside. Just like in the previous poem, Jia Baoyu has managed to find a way to talk about the centerpiece of the scene without actually talking about it.</p><p>&#23542;&#40718; is odd, of course. &#40718; means a censer, but also referred to tea heating vessels or kettles. By calling this a <em>precious</em> kettle (&#23542;&#40718;), Jia Baoyu establishes the fact that it is appropriate for an imperial visit, but also places emphasis on just how breathtaking the bamboo scenery outside the window really is. It&#8217;s amazing to the point that the person inside the room has completely ignored the precious kettle and the tea inside.</p><p class="button-wrapper" data-attrs="{&quot;url&quot;:&quot;https://www.redchamber.blog/p/ignored-tea-and-abandoned-chess/comments&quot;,&quot;text&quot;:&quot;Leave a comment&quot;,&quot;action&quot;:null,&quot;class&quot;:null}" data-component-name="ButtonCreateButton"><a class="button primary" href="https://www.redchamber.blog/p/ignored-tea-and-abandoned-chess/comments"><span>Leave a comment</span></a></p><p></p>]]></content:encoded></item><item><title><![CDATA[Soaking In Fragrance]]></title><description><![CDATA[Jia Baoyu's brilliant poem]]></description><link>https://www.redchamber.blog/p/soaking-in-fragrance</link><guid isPermaLink="false">https://www.redchamber.blog/p/soaking-in-fragrance</guid><dc:creator><![CDATA[Daniel Evensen]]></dc:creator><pubDate>Sat, 27 Jun 2026 10:01:04 GMT</pubDate><enclosure url="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!SUhJ!,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F6368214f-84b9-4637-b7a5-f3025d0feacd_433x1274.png" length="0" type="image/jpeg"/><content:encoded><![CDATA[<h1>Soaking In Fragrance</h1><p>Today&#8217;s post will make it obvious why <em>Dream of the Red Chamber</em><span> absolutely requires extensive textual notes. There&#8217;s simply no way you&#8217;d ever be able to understand what is going on here without slowing things down and reading very carefully. Jia Baoyu&#8217;s poem is absolutely marvelous.</span></p><p class="button-wrapper" data-attrs="{&quot;url&quot;:&quot;https://www.redchamber.blog/subscribe?&quot;,&quot;text&quot;:&quot;Subscribe now&quot;,&quot;action&quot;:null,&quot;class&quot;:null}" data-component-name="ButtonCreateButton"><a class="button primary" href="https://www.redchamber.blog/subscribe?"><span>Subscribe now</span></a></p><div><hr></div><h2><strong>My Translation</strong></h2>
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